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A New York Times Best Seller!

This Hugo Award-winning graphic novel chronicles the fall from grace of a group of super-heroes plagued by all-too-human failings. Along the way, the concept of the super-hero is dissected as the heroes are stalked by an unknown assassin.

One of the most influential graphic novels of all time and a perennial bestseller, WATCHMEN has been studied on college campuses across the nation and is considered a gateway title, leading readers to other graphic novels such as V FOR VENDETTA, BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS and THE SANDMAN series.

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Has any comic been as acclaimed as Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons'' Watchmen? Possibly only Frank Miller''s The Dark Knight Returns, but Watchmen remains the critics'' favorite. Why? Because Moore is a better writer, and Watchmen a more complex and dark and literate creation than Miller''s fantastic, subversive take on the Batman myth. Moore, renowned for many other of the genre''s finest creations ( Saga of the Swamp Thing, V for Vendetta, and From Hell, with Eddie Campbell) first put out Watchmen in 12 issues for DC in 1986-87. It won a comic award at the time (the 1987 Jack Kirby Comics Industry Awards for Best Writer/Artist combination) and has continued to gather praise since.

The story concerns a group called the Crimebusters and a plot to kill and discredit them. Moore''s characterization is as sophisticated as any novel''s. Importantly the costumes do not get in the way of the storytelling; rather they allow Moore to investigate issues of power and control--indeed it was Watchmen, and to a lesser extent Dark Knight, that propelled the comic genre forward, making "adult" comics a reality. The artwork of Gibbons (best known for 2000AD''s Rogue Trooper and DC''s Green Lantern) is very fine too, echoing Moore''s paranoid mood perfectly throughout. Packed with symbolism, some of the overlying themes (arms control, nuclear threat, vigilantes) have dated but the intelligent social and political commentary, the structure of the story itself, its intertextuality (chapters appended with excerpts from other "works" and "studies" on Moore''s characters, or with excerpts from another comic book being read by a child within the story), the finepace of the writing and its humanity mean that Watchmen more than stands up--it keeps its crown as the best the genre has yet produced. --Mark Thwaite

A Q&A with Dave Gibbons on the Making of Watchmen

Question: You were tasked with drawing new illustrations of key shots from the new Watchmen film. Was it a difficult challenge to re-imagine your work in this movie format?

Dave Gibbons: I don’t think that I actually did many key shots from the film. I had to actually imagine them rather than exactly recreate what was going to be in the movie. But as far as the drawings I did for the licensing purposes, accuracy was the real key so that they looked exactly like the movie. Whereas doing the graphic novel was creating stuff afresh and being very creative, this was more the case of interpreting something that already existed. So it was rather more a commercial art job than a creative thing.

Q: How many scenes from the original graphic novel did you redraw in the new "movie" format?

DG: I kind of did them piecemeal, these licensing drawings. I did do a section of storyboarding for Zack Snyder. There is a part of the movie that isn’t in the graphic novel and he wanted to see how I would have drawn it, if it had been in the graphic novel. So I redid the storyboards as three pages of comic on the nine-panel grid, also getting it coloured by John Higgins so it looked authentic. But I think there were probably only 3 or 4 scenes that I drew, which were from the movie.

Q: What was your working method for producing these new illustrations from the film? And how has it changed from when you originally illustrated Watchmen?

DG: When you’re producing things from existing material, you have to look at and assemble the references... you know, keep looking backwards and forwards to make sure what you’re drawing is accurate to what’s in the photos. I did have lots of photos from the movie and in some cases I had more or less the illustration I was going to do in photo form, which made it a lot easier. On others I had to construct it from various references: really just the usual illustrator’s job of drawing something to reference. And on the original illustrations of Watchmen, I was free to come up with exactly the angles and exactly the costumes and everything that I wanted to. When you’ve designed a costume and drawn it a few times, you actually internalize it and you find you can draw it without having to refer to reference at all. So in some ways it’s more creative and in some ways it’s easier!

Q: In Watchmen: The Art of the Film, there are concept designs by other artists of their visions of your iconic characters. What do you think of their versions and did you offer any guidance while they were working on these?

DG: It’s always really interesting to see versions of your characters drawn by other artists. You tend to see things in them that you hadn’t noticed before. So I really enjoyed looking at those. I certainly didn’t offer them any guidance. The purpose of getting those kinds of drawings done is to get a fresh perspective on what exists. I noticed actually that they really stuck more closely to my original designs than those, but I really enjoyed seeing them.

Q: Watchmen: Portraits is Clay Enos’s stunning black and white collection of photos of each character from the Watchmen movie. What was it like looking through this book at all the characters you had conceived years ago now being brought to life by actors?

DG: It’s rather interesting; you know if you look at the Watching the Watchmen book you can see these characters as fairly sketchy rough conceptual versions. Then when you look at Clay’s book you can actually see them right down to counting the number of pores on the skin on the end of their noses! It’s incredible high focus! It’s like zooming in through space and time to look at the surface of some moon of Saturn or something. I thoroughly enjoyed his book... it had a real artistic quality to it that was really so good. And of course to see these actors who so much are the embodiment of what I drew, that it’s a tremendous thrill to see them made flesh!

Q: Watchmen: The Film Companion features some stills from the animated version of The Black Freighter. What do you think of the look and design of this animated feature?

DG: It looks really interesting! Although I drew my version in the comic book in a kind of horror-comic style, these are very much in a savage manga style. I think they work really well... they’ve got the kind of manic intensity, which I think that work should have and I really can’t wait to see the whole feature. I’ve seen the trailer for it and that looks great and again they’ve used a lot of the compositions that I came up with but just translated them to this kind of very modern drawn animation.

Q: How much time did you spend on the set of Watchmen? Was it a surreal experience to see your work recreated like this?

DG: I was on the set of Watchmen for a couple of days and it really was surreal to walk through a door and then suddenly be in the presence of all these people in living breathing flesh! I was there for what you would call the Crimebusters meeting where they were all there in costume in the same room, which was incredible. They had obviously planned that so I would get to see everyone. It was surreal though quite a wonderful experience to see it come to life.

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"A work of ruthless psychological realism, it’s a landmark in the graphic novel medium. It would be a masterpiece in any."
–TIME, TIME MAGAZINE’s 100 best English-language novels from 1923 to the present

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Alan Moore is perhaps the most acclaimed writer in the graphic story medium, having garnered countless awards for works such as WATCHMEN, V FOR VENDETTA, SWAMP THING and Miracleman. He is also the mastermind behind the America''s Best Comics line, through which he has created (along with many talented illustrators) THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN, PROMETHEA, TOM STRONG, TOMORROW STORIES and TOP TEN. As one of the medium''s most important innovators since the early 1980s, Moore has influenced an entire generation of comics creators, and his work continues to inspire an ever-growing audience.

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Reviewed in the United States on January 5, 2019
Pages are missing and others are duplicated, I can not know what happened in chapter four, although the book was in good condition, I bought it because they always recommend it but I take a disappointment because of the printing error, after page 112, pages 81 onwards are... See more
Pages are missing and others are duplicated, I can not know what happened in chapter four, although the book was in good condition, I bought it because they always recommend it but I take a disappointment because of the printing error, after page 112, pages 81 onwards are repeated and after 16 repeated pages, page 129 appears.
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Alice F Cooper
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A flawed masterpiece
Reviewed in the United States on January 3, 2018
I''ve read Watchmen three times now: 1. In the early 90''s, when the Wall came down, when it seemed like the West had won, had outlasted the Evil Empire - which collapsed from within due to the endemic rot deep within the Communist ideology. The "new world order"... See more
I''ve read Watchmen three times now:
1. In the early 90''s, when the Wall came down, when it seemed like the West had won, had outlasted the Evil Empire - which collapsed from within due to the endemic rot deep within the Communist ideology. The "new world order" had come at last.
2. In early 2002, still stunned and disoriented by the cultural shock of Sept 11, I sensed the stirrings of illiberal mobacracy : first, behind closed doors, then, spilling out into the media (FOX News & MSNBC are little more than hateful mirror images of each other), next out into the open: mindless anti-war protests. "Blood for Oil" is so silly that it hardly justifies analysis of its nonsensical premise; likewise, the irrational hate spewed toward Muslims was a predictable demonization of the Other. It was a time of political and moral confusion not seen since the ''60s.
3. In the age of the Emperor Donald I, truth is what you say it is. And if anyone disagrees with that truth, then that person is clearly spouting the "fake news" spread by the (failing) NY Times. Conversely, the "Resistance" is so blinded by the Emperor''s crude antics that they miss the cultural rot beneath their feet. That American society is indeed being torn apart. And everyone is to blame. Mindless ideology - hatred of their political enemies - both Trumpers and anti-Trumpers are locked in a battle both will lose.

All the while, the Adrian Veidts of the world increase their power and wealth without regard to anyone else but themselves. Zuckerberg and Gates claim to be "philanthropists," but what they really want is the re-creation of the world in their own images.

But the end of Watchmen disappoints. Could have proposed new ideas, new ways of thinking about the human condition. But it didn''t. Big reveal? The gods are petty, and the Pharaohs are vain (well, no surprise there).

Nonetheless, Watchmen has proved to be a work of lasting power. It does raise important questions, even if its answers to these questions lack any depth or subtlety.

It is good... but Orwell, it ain''t!
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Read it before you die
Reviewed in the United States on November 28, 2016
Describing Watchmen is very hard. The story itself is less important than the themes that story unearths and the backdrop. Watchmen is about morality, it''s about politics, it''s about humanity, it''s about what being a superhero is, it''s about comics in general, and it''s... See more
Describing Watchmen is very hard. The story itself is less important than the themes that story unearths and the backdrop. Watchmen is about morality, it''s about politics, it''s about humanity, it''s about what being a superhero is, it''s about comics in general, and it''s about power. I don''t want to put down the plot, but like art-films, you don''t read this for the story. You read it for the elegance through which the themes are developed. It''s a slow burn story that packs one hell of a punch in the end, but isn''t necessarily something you''ll care about for the majority of the book.

The big question is whether it''s a good place to start in comics. I wouldn''t recommend this as the first thing you pick up due to how dark it is, and how you should have some idea of how comics function normally to see how well they''re being subverted and twisted here. Of course, since pop culture is stuffed full of superheroes right now it''s not something you really need to worry about if it is the first thing you pick up.

The biggest problem that would stand if you picked this up for the first time is that it doesn''t really introduce you to the wider world of DC comics. Yes, it''s a wonderful story, and if you want to add diversity to your shelf and play around in the corners of the comics world, it''s wonderful. But if you want to read superhero comics and want an introduction to that world, this is the wrong place to go. I do understand there was a set of prequel comics released at one point, but they aren''t written by Alan Moore (and he actually hates that they happened, if I understand it correctly) and didn''t last very long. I, personally, have no plans to read them since I''m not really interested in seeing what happened before this book.

My opinion of the whole graphic novel: wow it was amazing! It was not what I expected but I loved it all the way through. In no way did I expect it to take me this long to read, and it does disappoint me that it did, but every second really was a pleasure. If it''s been something you''ve debated I recommend picking it up sooner rather than later, even if it''s just from your library.

TL;DR? It''s not the best place to start, but is a wonderful book I recommend everyone read at some point in their lives.
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Amazing read. Recommendations and my thoughts, no spoilers.
Reviewed in the United States on November 22, 2019
I bought this graphic novel back in 2016 when I started enjoying comic books but, for some reason, I didn’t pick it up until recently. I have to say, I was mistaken to let it sit there for so many years. I will begin with a few recommendations and follow that up with my... See more
I bought this graphic novel back in 2016 when I started enjoying comic books but, for some reason, I didn’t pick it up until recently. I have to say, I was mistaken to let it sit there for so many years. I will begin with a few recommendations and follow that up with my thoughts.
First of all, I recommend everyone who reads this to do so before they watch the movie or the new HBO show. I haven’t watched either but from past experiences, they tend to do no justice to the original content.
Second, I recommend everyone to read about the history and what was happening in the 1950-1980s. This book contains a lot of historical information, and if you read it without any knowledge of what was going on in this period, you might not enjoy it as much.
Third, take your time watching the Illustration. This was a different comic book era. Nowadays, they focus more on the picture than actual storytelling. I have read comics where a whole issue has less than 20 sentences. Watchmen was created in a more storytelling era and it is a heavy read sometimes. As an example, my girlfriend has been reading it at about the same pace as I was (I finished it last night), and sometimes when I ask for her reaction or her opinion of why the illustrator (Dave Gibbons) added [insert something I noticed here], she would say: “Oh, I didn’t notice that”. So read, but pay attention to the illustrations. this book has its fair share of foreshadowing and you are like me, you will feel ecstatic when you find them and later find out you were right.

Now, as for my thoughts, this novel is definitely up there in my favorites. Needless to say, it is beautifully written and illustrated. Without giving spoilers, something I really enjoyed is the story within the story (you will know what I’m talking about). At first I had no idea why they had created this story, but as I kept reading, and paying more attention to the illustrations, the more I understood it. By the end, I not just understood it, but really appreciated it. It was beautiful by itself.
The psychological aspect of this novel is another plus. At first, one is led to believe that just one character is “crazy,” but if you look close enough, there may be more than just the one who are battling their own anxieties, demons, or whatever name you want to call them. This adds to the realness of this novel. No one is perfect, even if you are led to believe so, just like in real life.
Dedication. Alan Moore dedicated a lot of time to each character. This makes you feel like you know them. You know their strengths, their weaknesses, their personality, everything. While I don’t consider this the best comic I’ve read, Alan definitely displayed his characters the best I have seen anyone do it. You feel like you really know them. Even the newspaper guy. That’s how great of a job Alan Moore does.

I feel like I can go on and on about this novel, but I’m going close with this: if you haven’t read it, what are you waiting for? Don’t be like me. It might not change your life, but you will definitely enjoy it.
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"Who watches the watchmen?"
Reviewed in the United States on July 17, 2016
There is very little I can add to the reviews - stellar or otherwise - about Alan Moore''s _the Watchmen_ in terms of plot synopsis and cultural impact. When I was a boy, I loved reading comics, but the larger questions (were one to do away with the suspension of belief)... See more
There is very little I can add to the reviews - stellar or otherwise - about Alan Moore''s _the Watchmen_ in terms of plot synopsis and cultural impact. When I was a boy, I loved reading comics, but the larger questions (were one to do away with the suspension of belief) are never asked. In the _Watchmen_ Moore raises some really intriguing questions: what is it that makes a person become a "super hero?" "What happens after all the bad guys are defeated? Where do you go - and who are you now?" And most intriguing of all, "what if there were a superhero of supernatural strength, intelligence or power? How would this change international dynamics?"

The characters and their origin stories are archetypal - a family tragedy, a scientific accident, a wealthy magnate seeking to do good ... the human side of these super-heroes is what made this such an enjoyable and intriguing read for me: how power and fame warped some, how the government sought to manipulate and use these people, and what happens to them when they inevitably get old?

The conclusion was a bit of a let-down - it felt to me as if Moore had written himself into a corner and wasn''t sure how to get out of it; that said, the characters remained true to their nature; perhaps given the story arc there was no other way to wrap things up. To his credit, Moore didn''t "cheat" readers with a last-minute change of heart of a sudden catharsis that took characters in a different direction in order to provide a happy, tidy ending.

For comic book fans, this is a must read. As a cultural touch-stone and commentary on the nature of power and reflection of 20th century western values and mores, its an interesting commentary. For those seeking a fun and entertaining read, this will be a hit.
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Incredible Literal Dexterity
Reviewed in the United States on November 16, 2020
This was my first graphic novel. I almost exclusively read historical and non-fiction books, but was encouraged to give this particular book a read. Wow! I was completely blown away by the depth that is achieved through the interactions of the words, the pictures, and... See more
This was my first graphic novel. I almost exclusively read historical and non-fiction books, but was encouraged to give this particular book a read. Wow! I was completely blown away by the depth that is achieved through the interactions of the words, the pictures, and the writing. The seamless flow between periods of time and story-lines was incredible. The ability to simultaneously reveal the actions, and thoughts behind those actions, of every character is what made this such a fun read. I assumed the pictures would be a distraction, but I was wrong. Without pictures, readers are left to their own imaginations, and this is not per se bad but it has no constraints, nothing is forced because you are in total control. With a graphic novel you are presented with the images, you have no control, it is forced and you have to go along with it. But this is not bad either. A graphic novel is like a roller-coaster that takes you on a ride where IT wants to go, not you. The thrill is achieved because you have no control, you hold on and go where the coaster takes you. Same is true for this book, you will enjoy where it takes you. Hold-on and enjoy the ride. Highly recommend this book.
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The classic
Reviewed in the United States on June 14, 2017
While I don''t read a lot of graphic novels, I was told that this was one that could not be missed. I must say I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment. The story is gripping, the characters feel like they are truly real, and the artwork is fantastic. There is definitely a... See more
While I don''t read a lot of graphic novels, I was told that this was one that could not be missed. I must say I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment. The story is gripping, the characters feel like they are truly real, and the artwork is fantastic. There is definitely a lot to take in, as the book features stories within stories, articles and other information that is not strictly part of the "main plot", but it all helps to develop a cohesive world. I would say that this book would be required reading for anyone trying to get into graphic novels. Skip the movie (the movie changed too much of the plot for my liking, especially the ending), and start here instead, especially as the Watchmen become a part of the overall DC universe.
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Audrey
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Absolute Masterpiece
Reviewed in the United States on September 15, 2018
I could write books talking about how great this comic is, but I won''t waste the time. The writing is phenomenal, dry and careful with profound cohesion, just as I expect from Alan Moore. He and gibbons paid insane amounts of attention to detail, and they put an... See more
I could write books talking about how great this comic is, but I won''t waste the time.

The writing is phenomenal, dry and careful with profound cohesion, just as I expect from Alan Moore. He and gibbons paid insane amounts of attention to detail, and they put an incredible amount of time into weaving everything together. The themes and artistic techniques create so much depth that you''ll have PLENTY to think about and analyze. It''s a fantastic example of an artist using the "void" to tell a story.

This book changed my life so much that it''s basically become my own personal bible. I cannot recommend it enough. This is essential reading for anyone with even remote interest in graphic novels and/or story-telling. It''s wisdom is so on point that its still eerily relevant these 33 odd years later.

The book itself is a really nice size, and shipping was fast. Very happy, thank you.
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Aqui está algumas fotos reais do produto
Reviewed in Brazil on October 13, 2015
Quando eu fui comprar, eu fiz umas pesquisas e não achei nenhuma imagem a respeito desta edição, então, para evitar dúvidas, aqui está algumas imagens relacionadas ao produto. Antes que alguém comece a se perguntar: Não, não é capa dura.See more
Quando eu fui comprar, eu fiz umas pesquisas e não achei nenhuma imagem a respeito desta edição, então, para evitar dúvidas, aqui está algumas imagens relacionadas ao produto. Antes que alguém comece a se perguntar: Não, não é capa dura.
Quando eu fui comprar, eu fiz umas pesquisas e não achei nenhuma imagem a respeito desta edição, então, para evitar dúvidas, aqui está algumas imagens relacionadas ao produto.

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John D. Payne
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Even better than I remember
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on June 2, 2021
Revisited this classic, and it was such a joy to see that it''s even better than I remember. The kindle edition makes me appreciate the layout and details on the individual panels even more because, of course, If you double tap, each panel fills the screen. If you don''t know...See more
Revisited this classic, and it was such a joy to see that it''s even better than I remember. The kindle edition makes me appreciate the layout and details on the individual panels even more because, of course, If you double tap, each panel fills the screen. If you don''t know the story, it begins with the gruesome murder of a former masked crime fighter, and a conspiracy is gradually unveiled which raises a very awkward question about how far to go in pursuit of true world peace. Does any end justify the means it took to get there? This deserves to be up there with the same high esteem as the major literary classics. You''ll spot things on repeated readings which you didn''t notice the first time, so it''s well worth adding this to your collection.
Revisited this classic, and it was such a joy to see that it''s even better than I remember. The kindle edition makes me appreciate the layout and details on the individual panels even more because, of course, If you double tap, each panel fills the screen. If you don''t know the story, it begins with the gruesome murder of a former masked crime fighter, and a conspiracy is gradually unveiled which raises a very awkward question about how far to go in pursuit of true world peace. Does any end justify the means it took to get there? This deserves to be up there with the same high esteem as the major literary classics. You''ll spot things on repeated readings which you didn''t notice the first time, so it''s well worth adding this to your collection.
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Francisco Gomes Vargas
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Dá vontade de comprar de novo de tão bom
Reviewed in Brazil on March 26, 2019
Essa edição de Watchmen, pra mim - e repito, pra mim - é o mais definitivo que pode-se ter. Não sou fã de capa dura, acho que atrapalha a leitura e o conforto e tranquilidade na hora de abrir a edição, além de tornar o produto mais caro e impedir que o leitor leve a edição...See more
Essa edição de Watchmen, pra mim - e repito, pra mim - é o mais definitivo que pode-se ter. Não sou fã de capa dura, acho que atrapalha a leitura e o conforto e tranquilidade na hora de abrir a edição, além de tornar o produto mais caro e impedir que o leitor leve a edição pra todos os cantos com medo de avariar o material. Então, por não ser uma edição de capa dura, me atraiu muito essa edição de Watchmen. Com exceção daquela lançada pela Panini há alguns anos, do relógio ensanguentado, considero essa a capa mais bonita, por sua simplicidade e objetividade, além de ilustrar o maior ícone dessa graphic novel. O papel não é aquele couchê, plastificado, que também não gosto e sim um mais áspero, talvez pólen ou lux cream e a gramatura está ideal, transparência 0. As cores são vivas e certeiras, sem erros. É uma edição que aposta na simplicidade e acerta necessariamente por não exagerar em nada e entregar uma hq sem defeitos. Eu descartaria, talvez, os extras ao final do volume, mas há quem goste, então tudo bem. A entrega foi rápida e o produto veio sem nenhuma avaria, bem encapado. Dá vontade de comprar de novo de tão bom.
Essa edição de Watchmen, pra mim - e repito, pra mim - é o mais definitivo que pode-se ter. Não sou fã de capa dura, acho que atrapalha a leitura e o conforto e tranquilidade na hora de abrir a edição, além de tornar o produto mais caro e impedir que o leitor leve a edição pra todos os cantos com medo de avariar o material. Então, por não ser uma edição de capa dura, me atraiu muito essa edição de Watchmen. Com exceção daquela lançada pela Panini há alguns anos, do relógio ensanguentado, considero essa a capa mais bonita, por sua simplicidade e objetividade, além de ilustrar o maior ícone dessa graphic novel. O papel não é aquele couchê, plastificado, que também não gosto e sim um mais áspero, talvez pólen ou lux cream e a gramatura está ideal, transparência 0. As cores são vivas e certeiras, sem erros. É uma edição que aposta na simplicidade e acerta necessariamente por não exagerar em nada e entregar uma hq sem defeitos. Eu descartaria, talvez, os extras ao final do volume, mas há quem goste, então tudo bem. A entrega foi rápida e o produto veio sem nenhuma avaria, bem encapado. Dá vontade de comprar de novo de tão bom.
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Mr. Christian M. Bates
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We’re All Puppets, Laurie.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on October 21, 2020
I loved picking out the differences between the original graphic novel and the equally incredible movie!
I loved picking out the differences between the original graphic novel and the equally incredible movie!
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Again
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on November 25, 2019
Over 30 years since I read this issue by issue, my friends comic books from Timeslip in Newcastle. It is a good now as it was then.
Over 30 years since I read this issue by issue, my friends comic books from Timeslip in Newcastle. It is a good now as it was then.
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